三国时期,刘备攻打吴国不光是为2弟报仇~也有形式的压迫
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吴国一般不会和魏国结盟一起打蜀国的,因为魏国强大,如果没有蜀国,吴国也挡不住魏国,最终也会灭亡,所以吴国更倾于与蜀结盟共抗北魏,但吴蜀之间也是有很深的矛盾的。
至于关羽,是关羽自己不去处理缓和吴蜀矛盾,而发动襄攀之战,让吴国有可乘之机,虽然是结盟,但眼前有块肉,总不能不吃吧?
别忘了魏国的兵力比吴蜀两国加起来都多,魏军可以长安出汉中,安定入踏中,也可以寿春出如需,江陵也可以断吴军归路。吴蜀两国任何一国灭了,存活下的要面对两方面的压力。一方面的压力已经促使蜀国最后的灭亡,跟何况两面夹击的危险,吴国也是同样道理。之有两国联合才可以勉强存活。夷陵之战后,魏军不就是趁虚攻吴吗?有人说曹操‘挟天子以令诸侯’但这些诸侯中似乎只有刘备说这句话,利用这句话反对曹操的也是那些居心叵测之徒,其用心更不如曹操。刘表很早就不纳贡,刘焉在益州也是为以后图谋王霸,袁术自立为帝,袁绍要废黜皇帝,董卓狼子之心,孙权甚至劝说曹操称帝,早有不臣汉之心,三世江东未为国除一厉害,只为私利,刘备作为汉朝宗室也算对的起祖宗,但似乎刘备的名声远不及曹操,威望也不及,何谈复国。
吴国一般不会和魏国结盟一起打蜀国的,
因为魏国强大,而且魏国中“挟天子以令诸侯”,名不正,言不顺,人们都倾向于相信曹操是奸雄,要篡位,因此魏国方面是极不得人心的,人们都寄希望于刘备,因为他是汉朝后裔,因此非常受人们拥护,
吴国也知道和魏国合作算计不过人家,而且孙权和曹操那边因为赤壁之战结仇,无论如何是不会和魏国合作的,除非事出有因,如果没有蜀国,吴国也挡不住魏国,最终也会灭亡,所以吴国更倾于与蜀结盟共抗北魏,但吴蜀之间也是有很深的矛盾的。根源是荆州的问题
至于关羽,是关羽自己不去处理缓和吴蜀矛盾,而发动襄攀之战,让吴国有可乘之机,虽然是结盟,但眼前有块肉,总不能不吃吧?而且那时候是说好借与刘备荆州,但刘迟迟不还人家
吴国一般不会和魏国结盟一起打蜀国的,
因为魏国强大,而且魏国中“挟天子以令诸侯”,名不正,言不顺,人们都倾向于相信曹操是奸雄,要篡位,因此魏国方面是极不得人心的,人们都寄希望于刘备,因为他是汉朝后裔,因此非常受人们拥护,
吴国也知道和魏国合作算计不过人家,而且孙权和曹操那边因为赤壁之战结仇,无论如何是不会和魏国合作的,除非事出有因,如果没有蜀国,吴国也挡不住魏国,最终也会灭亡,所以吴国更倾于与蜀结盟共抗北魏,但吴蜀之间也是有很深的矛盾的。根源是荆州的问题
至于关羽,是关羽自己不去处理缓和吴蜀矛盾,而发动襄攀之战,让吴国有可乘之机,虽然是结盟,但眼前有块肉,总不能不吃吧?而且那时候是说好借与刘备荆州,但刘迟迟不还人家
你的分析存在纰漏.
刘备所以对付孙权,一是关羽之死,二是国家利益.国家占据主导,关羽是义气方面.
关羽死,按照史书记载,魏国方面曾有评论,蜀汉大将只要关羽,关羽死,蜀汉气短,不敢复出.刘备出兵,报仇是有的;同时,也是借机彰显国家实力,打破谣言.
吴蜀同盟是利害同盟,是薄弱同盟.之所以联盟,是时事所迫,利害使然.但,孙权早期一直把刘备当做门下寄宿客,后来,一直纠着荆州问题死缠烂打;而刘备方面,也从未从内心重视孙权,刘备一直炫耀自己的政治资本:皇亲.把自己看成是汉家合法继承 天下合法统治者,有这个思维左右,导致他一直没仔细的真实对待局势与同盟孙权.二家利益自危机解除后,开始愈演愈烈,最终火并.
孙权出兵是为了夺取算计已久的荆州,而刘备出兵,是为了彰显皇威.连同盟都可以来欺侮他,杀将夺地,这个负面影响相当大,极大程度是对刘备政权的挑衅,同时造成刘备统治下势力与争取外援,比如孟获等的蠢蠢欲动.事实证明,刘备政权有风水草动,政权外表和平下潜藏的矛盾就会爆发.比如,黄元 孟获.出兵孙权,是为了巩固政权,安定统治,杀鸡儆猴.
夺取土地,灭掉孙权的可能也是存在的.毕竟蜀汉四缘发展都臻于饱和.孙权方面给刘备东出造成客观理义优势.
因此,刘备东出是战略抉择.主要是巩固政权,其次是发展东缘,之后才是夹杂的个人情感.虽然失败,但其抉择具有的意义不容否认,是刘备政治积累的结果.
从那时候的条件来说,吴要进攻蜀国非常困难,所以拿回荆州就知足了。另外,我国那时所处的长江以南其实就经济上来说比魏、蜀都要落后,国力明显不如魏、蜀,所以一直也没有什么很大的动作。
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